Recorded TV

[ireme 11]

I added the Recorded TV folder to MBS and for each new recording, generates a backdrop jpg and nfo file.

How I can prevent me generate those files. I've looked at MBS Metadata and I see no way to do it.

Thanks in advance

[ebr 14910]

It is probably best not to point MB Server directly at your recorded TV folder as it is going to be constantly being updated and likely cause these other types of issues as well.

 

I would, instead, put something in place that moves the items over from the raw recorded TV folder to a proper structure that MB supports.  The auto organize feature may be able to help with this or there are other 3rd-party tools that will do it.

[ireme 11]

Yes, the TV recorded native structure it's raw.

Would be good in the Metadata configuration "Customize for media type:" had a field "Recorded TV" to choose Metadata".

Edited September 29, 2014 by ireme

[mjktg99 34]

It is probably best not to point MB Server directly at your recorded TV folder as it is going to be constantly being updated and likely cause these other types of issues as well.

 

I would, instead, put something in place that moves the items over from the raw recorded TV folder to a proper structure that MB supports.  The auto organize feature may be able to help with this or there are other 3rd-party tools that will do it.

For my HTPC, I primarily use WMC. I will do so until MBT supports Live TV.  As such, I store my recorded tv in the location I set up in WMC and point MBS to that location.  What are the side effects from a WMC standpoint of moving those recordings to a MBS supported folder structure.  I know I would have to point WMC to that folder.  Will WMC still see the recorded tv like it does now?

[ebr 14910]

No, the point is that you should really have separate areas for the two for two reasons:

 

1) WMC is expecting a flat structure and is also constantly writing to that folder - which is going to cause MB to try and re-scan it and probe the video files - probably before they are complete.

 

and

 

2) MB needs a specific structure in order for all of its advanced functionality to work properly.

 

So, my suggestion was to have something move your items from the recorded TV folder for WMC to a proper structure for MB and have the two systems only see their appropriate area.  The issues arise when you try to share the same area with the two systems that are expecting different structures.

[ireme 11]

ebr, thanks for advice but It's too much work to maintain two structures for the same thing.

I think it is easier to erase occasionally jpg nfo files created in Record TV,  but as already said  it would be good to choose the metadata created in that directory

[politby 88]

I agree with ebr. You need to keep them separate.

If you want to keep Media Center recordings catalogued by Media Browser you are going to have to put in some work to rename and organize the files because the MediaCenter metadata does not contain all the fields Media Browser needs. MB will not be able to make any sense of the WTV metadata.

If your TV provider is one of the rare ones who provide an EPG with the correct season and episode numbering, you can manipulate some registry settings in Windows to have the WTV file names contain the correct season and episode numbers. This will allow you to use the Media Browser auto organize feature to move and rename the recordings into the correct structure.

[mjktg99 34]

I agree with ebr. You need to keep them separate.

If you want to keep Media Center recordings catalogued by Media Browser you are going to have to put in some work to rename and organize the files because the MediaCenter metadata does not contain all the fields Media Browser needs. MB will not be able to make any sense of the WTV metadata.

If your TV provider is one of the rare ones who provide an EPG with the correct season and episode numbering, you can manipulate some registry settings in Windows to have the WTV file names contain the correct season and episode numbers. This will allow you to use the Media Browser auto organize feature to move and rename the recordings into the correct structure.

 

Is there any automated process for TV Metadata?  If I am understanding you, MBS wont be able to take the WMC Recording and figure out what it is on its own.  I currently use MCM for my movie metadata, I can look into setting it up for TV.  I just wouldn't want to have to go in and manually setup the TV information daily as new shows are recorded.

 

Any help is appreciated..  TV is the one area I am confused on with MBS.

[politby 88]

That's right. MBS does not read WTV metadata, and even if it did it would not be able to make sense of it because it simply does not include the fields required to identify the correct series, episodes, etcetera.

 

You have to format the file names in a way that MBS understands. You can change the media center file naming scheme by changing registry values, but that requires the correct WTV metadata fields to be populated with the correct information. For instance, you will have to insert series names, episode and season numbers into e.g. the title and subtitle WTV fields, if your TV provider has not already ensured those are in the EPG.

 

The way I solved this was to use an XML source (timefortv) for TV schedules and import those into the media center EPG. Before the import into media center, I use an XML postprocessor to insert the correct series information into the title and subtitle fields of the XML. This way WTV files end up with series information in those fields which you can then use for naming the files.

Edited September 30, 2014 by politby

[blade005 172]

For my HTPC, I primarily use WMC. I will do so until MBT supports Live TV.  As such, I store my recorded tv in the location I set up in WMC and point MBS to that location.  What are the side effects from a WMC standpoint of moving those recordings to a MBS supported folder structure.  I know I would have to point WMC to that folder.  Will WMC still see the recorded tv like it does now?

 

I have a RECORDED TV folder for all active recordings that WMC uses. I have also set up a RECORDED TV - SHARE folder where I move recordings after they are completed. I have MBS set up to only look in the RECORDED TV - SHARE folder.  

 

You can point WMC to both your RECORDED TV folder and your RECORDED TV - SHARE folder and the information will look exactly the same as if you left them all in your RECORDED TV folder. You can even change the file name of the recordings you move over to your SHARE folder for MBS compatibility and WMC will still present them the same way as before. I also have sub folders in the SHARE folder for Major Networks and then for each Series under that Network. Recordings get moved there after I rename them. WMC still sees all of these shows as if they were left in the original RECORDED TV folder.

 

I use FileBot http://www.filebot.net/ to read the WTV file and rename it to a structure I can use in MBS (Show Name.S01E01 - Episode Name). FileBot does a pretty decent job of reading the Metadata from the WMC file and renaming to the correct structure for MBS. Not always accurate, but I use it manually for the 5 or 6 recordings per night and it works.

Edited September 30, 2014 by blade005

[Spaceboy 2493]

Look at wtv metarenamer for err..... renaming wtvs according to metadata

[blade005 172]

Look at wtv metarenamer for err..... renaming wtvs according to metadata

I did in the past. FIleBot was just much simpler to install and use. It is manual, but works for my limited use.

[Spaceboy 2493]

I just love the ronseal name!