Vicpa 552 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) Hi, Let me start with the Homerun and live tv integration in the new beta is a very cool feature and definitely a differential for MB3. My compliments to the development team, I think it will open interesting possibilities going forward. Like the title a couple of questions.. How can I verify/ help test that it is working in my config ? Do I need to configure anything? I fired up Live TV from the web client on ie11. From other posts I assume that would use the new functionality. But I didn't config anything so I don't know.? Here is what I found, tried to include everything I could think of. Server log shows the source from ServerWMC temp. Snipet of the log livetv.txt The stream was being transcoded, The audio was way out of sync. I can provide the transcode log, but it maybe another issue (and is too big for this post) The HD is showing up as a upnp dlna source screen of The xml for the HD :SDxml.txt Is this as expected? I am probably missing something obvious (it has been known to happen to me before ) If I need to provide anything else let me know Thanks !!! Edited November 1, 2014 by Vicpa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustyreturns 191 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) If you are talking about being able to run live-tv with dlna and the hdhomerun, it still requires the dev version of mbs (I think). Also it needs the version of serverwmc that supports dlna and that I haven't released yet, I only have a test build out. Edited November 1, 2014 by krustyreturns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicpa 552 Posted November 1, 2014 Author Share Posted November 1, 2014 Hi Krusty, I have MB3 beta Version 3.0.5416.0 Plugin 1.0.0.48 installed. Server Version: 1.0.0.42, build: 1167, installed. When do you think you will have the release out? You know us darn users we are always impatient Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustyreturns 191 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 What I think and reality usually diverge badly. This dlna stuff as far as mbs goes is easy but on the backend there is a lot of stuff that needs changing (plus I have the additional headache that xbmc handles dlna very differently than mbs). I hope to have it done before next weekend. When what I am working on now is stable, maybe you can test it first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent 91 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 @@krustyreturns I am willing to test as well, latest beta installed with an HDHomerun Prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicpa 552 Posted November 1, 2014 Author Share Posted November 1, 2014 Happy to test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustyreturns 191 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Thanks, when I have something I'll pm you guys, probably tonight or tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent 91 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Hi Krusty, how is this coming along? Very interested in testing this out. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustyreturns 191 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 This week circumstances (almost) beyond my control got in the way. I should have time this weekend, I certainly haven't forgot about it. I still plan on giving it to you guys to test first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustyreturns 191 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 btw, do any of you guys have an hdhr PLUS? It would be great if someone with one of these devices could test it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicpa 552 Posted November 8, 2014 Author Share Posted November 8, 2014 Hi Krusty No problem, whenever you are ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustyreturns 191 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 @@Vicpa and @@Kent I PM'd you where to get a test version of swmc for dlna. make sure you are running it with the dev updated version of my plugin and mbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent 91 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 @krustyreturns Installed Dev MB Server and ran updates to look for new plug-in versions (none found for ServerWMC Plugin, is this correct?) Installed Dev ServerWMC no problems. Versions: Server: 3.0.5424.34074 ServerWMC Plugin: 1.0.0.48 ServerWMC: 1.0.0.45, build: 1170 Rebooted Server and tested a few minutes on Firefox via my Mac: Behaviors experienced: It took two times to get a consistent stream, lasted for about 3 minutes before locking up. During the 3 minutes period, I experienced video and audio pixelation. Looking at the transcoding log, there are several unusual errors that I typically do not see. At about the 3 minute mark, the stream stopped and never restarted. Logs attached. If i don't hear back from you soon, I'll test Roku and see how the behavior is there. Thanks! transcode-d5ae2558-7948-4ba7-ae6c-b7b279630fd8.txt ServerWMC.log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustyreturns 191 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I don't see a problem in the serverwmc log. I have been using chrome to test, so I tried firefox and it worked fine for me also. With both I do see a little pixelation at the very start of the video, but then it played smooths. Have you tried chrome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicpa 552 Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 Hi Krusty, Emailed you logs. I have an update. Seems to be working fine in Chrome. So... Chrome - OK IE11 - no Win 8 - no, but that is still under development (I think) MBT - no, but I don't know whether it should. Thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent 91 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Tested a few more apps, results: Chrome on Win7: OK (kinda perfect playback, started immediately with zero pixelation or issues over a few minutes of watching it) Safari on Mac: No (refused to start the stream at all) FF on Mac: No (heavy pixelation of video/audio) Roku (v1.64): longer buffer time, but OK (zero pixelation, no stops, perfect playback) Android Client (over WiFi): OK with infrequent pixelation (video/audio). Infrequent defined as 5% of the viewing time. Safari and FF are on the same Mac so might be client side issue. One important note is that the transcoding is about double what I had before, so that is great news overall. Just wish I had a client that can play mpeg2 and ac3 natively to avoid transcode altogether. Edit: Macbook Air Safari: Same as my iMAC - does not work. Edited November 9, 2014 by Kent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustyreturns 191 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Quick work, thanks guys. It seems that serverwmc is doing what it is supposed to: just handing the dlna url to MBS. So I assume this is an MBS client/server wrinkle that needs to be worked out for this addressing, but we'll need to get the MBS guys to comment. @@Luke? Its also worth checking that the correct channel is streaming and that swmc returns tuner device urls for devices that have free tuners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37006 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 if you have the webm plugin installed for IE it generally improves compatibility, however in the case of live TV IE actually seems to work better without it. We'll have to keep an eye on that. roku, chrome and firefox are testing great here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent 91 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Its also worth checking that the correct channel is streaming and that swmc returns tuner device urls for devices that have free tuners. Tests so far confirm correct channel is tuned when selected from the web client. I'll have to wait for the WMC boxes to free up to test if ServerWMC picks up the available/unavailability of the tuners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicpa 552 Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) Hi @ @krustyreturns thanks for all your efforts ! My results are the same as Kent's. Channels are correct. Live TV on the server dashboard shows accurate tuner status. ServerWMC shows active streams which seems correct to me. I haven't tested the scenario of all tuners in use and serverwmc calls for a recording to happen. What should the expected behavior be ? I don't hit that case in my setup, but some people may. I will wait patiently for the clients I use to get up to speed with live TV. BTW- Have you played with the DLNA RUI client in the latest beta of the HD software ? It is pretty cool. The preview of new the windows HD View has guide info for what is on now. The picture quality has been hit or miss for me. It is either great or some other "word" for bad. Let me know about the turners in use and recording scenario. Thanks again! Edited November 10, 2014 by Vicpa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustyreturns 191 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Yeah, glad you brought that up @@Vicpa. The wmc recording service won't steal tuners from running dlna streams, it will just detect that the tuner is in use by another app, and will keep searching for another tuner that's free. If it can't find one, the recording will fail and the service will try to reschedule at a different time (if it can find one in the epg). This differs from the old non-dlna mode, in that mode the rec service will grab a tuner from a live stream if no tuners are available for a recording. Don't want to hijack this thread, so email me a link the dlna HD thing - sounds interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent 91 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) Quick update...I was able to confirm swmc correctly detects when tuners are unavailable. I was able to grab a tuner via VLC on a non-MB3 machine and also run WMC on the swmc machine. swmc correctly detected that two of the three tuners were busy. edit: I was also able to reset a tuner using the MB3 Live TV Reset Tuner function. Edited November 10, 2014 by Kent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustyreturns 191 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidman 589 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 One quick question. ..do you still need wmc installed to use hdhomerun on mbs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustyreturns 191 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 No, it doesn't have to be wmc, but currently you need a pvr backend installed to stream the tuner output to MBS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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