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Can WMC Be Dumped Yet? IPTV? Extenders?


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mriksman

Hi,

 

Right now I have at one house, Windows Media Center with 2x XBox 360's used as Extenders, and Emby serving up all my media. ServerWMC serves live TV to me remotely. At another house, I have just Emby running, and used my iPhone/iPad (webclient and native app) to stream these to my Chromecast devices.

 

What I would like to know is; does Emby have any type of Extender? Without needing a full PC? I see Roku, but the interface looks awful (sorry). I have high hopes for the Android TV (Nexus) that is being developed.

 

That being said - what about Live TV? If WMC disappears from Windows 10 (or 11, or 12...), then won't ServerWMC cease to work? What other options are available?

 

I now live in Ireland (the second house I spoke about), and the TV is dished up using an IPTV box. I would love to integrate the service in to a Emby server, and then have Emby Extenders all around the house. Is this at all possible?

 

To me, it seems Emby is oh so very close; it just needs the Live TV/IPTV plugin (without the need for WMC), and a more robust set of Extenders/Clients (without the need for standalone PC's, or requiring an iPhone/iPad/Device to stream to a TV).

 

Thanks for any advice/tips.

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Koleckai Silvestri

I don't have WMC installed on any of computers on my network and the family uses Emby and its clients just fine. Emby provides a wide range of access to devices via DLNA, you would have to see if your devices are on the list. I don't use LiveTV due to hardware and distance issues but Emby supports providers besides ServerWMC.

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mriksman

Thanks for the reply, but that is exactly what I said I am already doing. What I am interested in knowing;

* I'd like a native 'Extender' - much like the Nexus. i.e. a small device that has a remote that acts as a client to Emby. I think that is a little neater than having to stream via DLNA to a device.

* I'd like to have Live TV/Recording - which does not rely on ServerWMC. I use ServerWMC currently, but;

     * it relies on WMC - which has a shaky future ahead.

     * it doesn't support IPTV - which is how my TV is delivered to me in Ireland (so Tuner cards + ServerWMC is of no use to me).

 

Any thoughts on these points specifically?

 

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Macburp

Some possibilities

- a NUC (not cheap enough really)

- an Asus Chromebox hacked to Linux and running Openelec/Kodi for Emby can be had for £150

- An android TV box running kitkat and the Emby android mobile app. Needs an air mouse. interface really designed for touch, bit weird on a tv

- Google Nexus Player. Emby would be fine for this, but not many apps yet have the required 'laidback' set-up eg. BBC iPlayer.

 

What IPTV services are you getting?

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Koleckai Silvestri

Thanks for the reply, but that is exactly what I said I am already doing. What I am interested in knowing;

* I'd like a native 'Extender' - much like the Nexus. i.e. a small device that has a remote that acts as a client to Emby. I think that is a little neater than having to stream via DLNA to a device.

* I'd like to have Live TV/Recording - which does not rely on ServerWMC. I use ServerWMC currently, but;

     * it relies on WMC - which has a shaky future ahead.

     * it doesn't support IPTV - which is how my TV is delivered to me in Ireland (so Tuner cards + ServerWMC is of no use to me).

 

Any thoughts on these points specifically?

 

Ahh terminology mixup. An Extender is anything that would allow me to access media via DNLA. I would call the nexus a client since it can run its own app. There is a Nexus Client App currently being tested with a 10' UI and remote capabilities. I use Roku's myself. Some people don't like the UI but the media is more important and there isn't a more qualified small box available yet. The Nexus Player looks nice but it doesn't have a native HBOGo app so that is a deal killer.

 

NUCs seem nice but not really interesting in spending $200+ for a other rooms of the house. Though you can use Theater on them if that suits your purposes. Depends on your needs and budget.

 

Might be able to use the Apple TV in the future if they open the OS to Apps.

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mriksman

Wow - those NUC's are pretty cool. But at $350++ a pop; hard to justify sticking one of them at each TV throughout the house... 

 

Interesting idea regarding the Android... So these 'Android Mini PCs' - they would run the Android Emby app right? So designed for touch... Could definitely be a bit quirky; probably rather the Roku.

 

In Ireland? They feed the generic OTA TV shows (and a few others) via the Fibre-to-the-home (FTTH) setup. Have tried asking them (Magnet) for the protocol/m3u playlist. Or can DVBLink 'scan' a network port for broadcast/multicast traffic?

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mriksman

Some possibilities

- a NUC (not cheap enough really)

- an Asus Chromebox hacked to Linux and running Openelec/Kodi for Emby can be had for £150

- An android TV box running kitkat and the Emby android mobile app. Needs an air mouse. interface really designed for touch, bit weird on a tv

- Google Nexus Player. Emby would be fine for this, but not many apps yet have the required 'laidback' set-up eg. BBC iPlayer.

 

What IPTV services are you getting?

What do you mean 'laidback' set-up?

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Macburp

What do you mean 'laidback' set-up?

I've probably got the word wrong. There's a line in the android code theat Google require before the app can appear as Android TV compatible. There are hardly any apps with this, one of them is Emby.

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xnappo

Wow - those NUC's are pretty cool. But at $350++ a pop; hard to justify sticking one of them at each TV throughout the house... 

 

Interesting idea regarding the Android... So these 'Android Mini PCs' - they would run the Android Emby app right? So designed for touch... Could definitely be a bit quirky; probably rather the Roku.

 

In Ireland? They feed the generic OTA TV shows (and a few others) via the Fibre-to-the-home (FTTH) setup. Have tried asking them (Magnet) for the protocol/m3u playlist. Or can DVBLink 'scan' a network port for broadcast/multicast traffic?

NUCs are awesome - you don't need a high end one - I run this $150 one:

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Next-Computing-Black-BOXDCCP847DYE/dp/B00B7I8HZ4/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1427750522&sr=8-5&keywords=intel+nuc

with a USB stick and 2 gigs of RAM (OpenElec/Emby for Kodi)

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thefirstofthe300

I've probably got the word wrong. There's a line in the android code theat Google require before the app can appear as Android TV compatible. There are hardly any apps with this, one of them is Emby.

 

I think the word you are looking for is "Leanback."

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thefirstofthe300

Yup. It is.

 

And I am pretty "laidback" about this sort of thing. :):P

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Deihmos

NUCs are awesome - you don't need a high end one - I run this $150 one:

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Next-Computing-Black-BOXDCCP847DYE/dp/B00B7I8HZ4/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1427750522&sr=8-5&keywords=intel+nuc

with a USB stick and 2 gigs of RAM (OpenElec/Emby for Kodi)

I just got this http://www.amazon.com/Intel-DN2820FYKH-Celeron-N2820-support/dp/B00HVKLSVC and it is great plus cheaper and has wifi built in. I wonder why that model cost more when the cpu is a little weaker. The device is awesome, idles at 3 watts.

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mriksman

But once you have this, your options are Kodi+Emby, and a some IR remote, or using the Windows Theatre client - not sure of how the remote would operate with that.

 

Wouldn't the new Android TV app (Asus Nexus Player) be better for a 10' interface? Comes with the remote, and was built for the living room experience.

 

What does a NUC offer on top of this?

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Macburp

But once you have this, your options are Kodi+Emby, and a some IR remote, or using the Windows Theatre client - not sure of how the remote would operate with that.

 

Wouldn't the new Android TV app (Asus Nexus Player) be better for a 10' interface? Comes with the remote, and was built for the living room experience.

 

What does a NUC offer on top of this?

 

WMC is the most obvious solution for today with a NUC. Another alternative is (funnily enough) the Windows 8.1 app, I was reading a thread yesterday about people using an MCE remote with that, with some success.

 

The advantage of a NUC is the ability (with the right client) to direct play media and make better use of higher quality audio eg DTS 5.1 etc. Whether that justifies the extra money for a NUC, memory, HD, OS is a personal decision.

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Deihmos

But once you have this, your options are Kodi+Emby, and a some IR remote, or using the Windows Theatre client - not sure of how the remote would operate with that.

 

Wouldn't the new Android TV app (Asus Nexus Player) be better for a 10' interface? Comes with the remote, and was built for the living room experience.

 

What does a NUC offer on top of this?

Can you view live TV with pvr functions with a nexus or playback videos with HD audio to a receiver? Edited by Deihmos
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