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For an explanation of exactly what MB Plus is, see here.

 

Install the server plug-in first and then restart your server.  Then install the classic plug-in in MBC (requires the Beta MBC 155+).

 

Most configuration is accomplished via the server plug-in configuration page and the customization possibilities are quite extensive.

 

Please report issues and feedback in this thread.  Thanks.

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yaksplat

If I want a channel to display nothing but Disney cartoons I'd really need something to keep all of the selections to a specific folder as there is no commonality between cartoons.  They have different actors, some don't have actors...

 

Would it be possible to create a channel from a folder?

 

From the point of view of a tv show based channel, will there be a way that I can select a subset of shows that should be shown on the channel without trying to find match criteria?

 

I'd love to select Disney cartoons and Looney Tunes (both of which are considered movies) and have that mix with a TV series of choice.

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mboehler

If I want a channel to display nothing but Disney cartoons I'd really need something to keep all of the selections to a specific folder as there is no commonality between cartoons.  They have different actors, some don't have actors...

 

Would it be possible to create a channel from a folder?

 

From the point of view of a tv show based channel, will there be a way that I can select a subset of shows that should be shown on the channel without trying to find match criteria?

 

I'd love to select Disney cartoons and Looney Tunes (both of which are considered movies) and have that mix with a TV series of choice.

 

You can create channels based off of studios.  So you can create a Disney channel and then add all the studios that have the word Disney in the name, like Disney, Disney XD, Disney Toon Studios, Walt Disney Productions, Walt Disney Television Animation, etc.

 

If you want the channel to show up under TV, you assign it to type TV.  But the selections it chooses won't be limited to TV.  It will have TV shows and Movies.

 

You can do the same with Looney Tunes.  Either create it's own channel, or add its studios to the Disney channel if you wish.

 

 

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Starkadius

I purchased the original MBPlus for MediaBrowser 2 long ago and really enjoyed it so I just purchased the new MB Plus on the server without even trying it. Once again, just showing my support in whatever way I can to the awesome features/plugins being released by a great team of developers. I don't need to say this but I hope others out there do the same, please show your support! It is worth it.

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yaksplat

You can create channels based off of studios.  So you can create a Disney channel and then add all the studios that have the word Disney in the name, like Disney, Disney XD, Disney Toon Studios, Walt Disney Productions, Walt Disney Television Animation, etc.

 

If you want the channel to show up under TV, you assign it to type TV.  But the selections it chooses won't be limited to TV.  It will have TV shows and Movies.

 

You can do the same with Looney Tunes.  Either create it's own channel, or add its studios to the Disney channel if you wish.

 

 

 

Unfortunately that won't work.  As I said, there's no commonality between the cartoons. The studio is not consistent and by adding additional Disney studios into the mix, you get more than you want.  Also, in the case of looney tunes, warner bros is a very far reaching studio and the criteria would pull in many unintended results.

 

I think this is a great start for MB+ channels. But the selection criteria needs to contain more options.  My guess is that it's a randomly ordered result set based off of the selection criteria chosen from the stored metadata with some weighing options.  If that's the case, adding in where path = '\\SERVER\Disney Cartoons\Silly Symphonies - Disney Animated Shorts' should be a straightforward edit.  Any field on the metadata screen should be in play.

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Whenever building something like this you have to balance functionality with complexity.

 

It would not be hard to add more criteria but each one add to complexity for the user and make the whole concept less accessible.

 

I will watch user requests and try to balance these as best I can.

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WWWestern

Cool!

 

Looks grand, but:

1. I am surprised that there is no support collections. I created a category called Collections, but I can not put media folder Collections there. I created a channel Doctor Who, but then again I can not associate with a collection folder of Doctor Who. I would like to category Collections was built and was able to create channels based on specific folders;

2. Names of items generally do not fit on the screen (all the letters on the screen is 15);

3. Order of episodes for many series is random, probably a bug;

4. For episodes in the series where no thumb.jpg and no logo, on the screen can not be understood as a series called, in this case it is necessary to add text with name of a series.

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 I am surprised that there is no support collections. I created a category called Collections, but I can not put media folder Collections there. I created a channel Doctor Who, but then again I can not associate with a collection folder of Doctor Who. I would like to category Collections was built and was able to create channels based on specific folders;

 

It is in Beta and, thus, not completely finished.  However, this is a hurdle I have with the server API right now.  There isn't an easy way for me to get to these "virtual" collections and I haven't hacked a solution for it  yet.  You also can't attach Trailers or Podcasts anywhere right now.

 

 

 

Names of items generally do not fit on the screen (all the letters on the screen is 15);

 

This is actually a style choice.  I understand some may not like it but that is what it is.

 

 

Order of episodes for many series is random, probably a bug;

 

Specific example please.  I'm not aware of such a situation.

 

 

 

For episodes in the series where no thumb.jpg and no logo, on the screen can not be understood as a series called, in this case it is necessary to add text with name of a series.

 

This should only be an issue in either "Next Up" or a custom channel but, yes, we should fall back to the text if there is no logo.

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WWWestern

This is actually a style choice.  I understand some may not like it but that is what it is.

This should be a option. None of the titles from a three words does not fit the screen. It is very much too! Come on, leave a huge text, you can make it even more, :P  but... and place a readable name.

 

Specific example please.  I'm not aware of such a situation.

 

 

Here. TV Series -> Latest -> Elementary

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Those appear to be missing or future episodes and, I'm guessing, the season or episode numbers are either missing or incorrect.

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Okay, can you confirm for me what the season and episode numbers are for those first three or four items that show there?

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WWWestern

Yes. Season and episode numbers are existed for all episodes, regardless of whether existed, whether missing, whether unaired. 1-16 eps are missing, 20-24 are unaired.

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I understand.  I'm asking for you to tell me what season and episodes those items in the screenshot you posted are so that I can try and find a pattern to why they are jumbled up.  Thanks.

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WWWestern

But I do not understand...  ;) Because numbers of the season and episodes are on the screenshot!

It is 2nd season of Elementary, episode numbers that visible on the screenshot are: 10, 1, 23, 2, 22.

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Those aren't all necessarily from the same season.  MBPlus works in a continual line across seasons.  So, have you actually arrowed across them and confirmed that they are all season 2?  They could actually be from other seasons as well.

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WWWestern

Yes, all there are from 2nd. I even remember the names of these, because I am translating them on tvdb.

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Okay, so you said that episodes 1-16 have aired but those tiles that are showing there are clearly for virtual items (they are faded out and have no duration) - which means they are either un-aired or missing in MB.  Do you have all of the episodes 1-16 in your library?  Do they show up in other views as not missing?

 

If so, what we may have here are some old, orphaned virtual items being pulled out of the library.  I had that situation with one of my shows due to an old bug in a dev version of the server a long time ago.

 

If you search on the episode names of those in the web client, do you get two copies of them by any chance?

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WWWestern

No, I deleted 1-16. No, they are missing in orger views. No, they are in results once.

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Okay, one last question before I dig in and try to see what is going on here - What is the episode number of the episode just before it goes wonky in your screen shot and how many episodes are there before the missing ones that are out of order?

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mboehler

Hey ebr,

 

I just wanted to say that I'm loving the Next Up channel in TV Series.  Each evening when we settle down for the night, I put it on that and watch the next episodes of the current series I'm watching.  I don't have to navigate through all the series I have looking for the next ones in line. It just does it all for me.

 

Great work!

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WWWestern

I do not know what to say and judge for yourself:

 

Total on screen are in the order: 20, 10, 1, 23, 2, 22, 21, 5, 14, 8, 6

1-16 are "missing"

21 is "missing"

22-24 are "unaired"

 

From really existed 17-20 is visible #20 only. 

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Ok, thanks WWW.  Update the server plug-in, restart and see if you get the proper order on future/missing episodes now.

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