naming tv shows/episode files for best recognition

[bulls 1]

something's wrong with the scraper & database thing...

i have different TV show naming schemes but i dont see any logic how the scraper works, sometimes same show only recognising 2 seasons, some recognizing none ..

(and they all work perfect in XBMC)

 

Curb Your Enthusiasm\Season A\Curb Your Enthusiasm - 0Ax0B - ep name.ext   -- only seasons 2,4 get recognized and only some episodes there

 

Friends\season A\0A0B.ext does some real funny sh*t

season 1 lists episodes as "01 - the one with ..." 20 times ,  -- all these will actually play a different episode ...?@!?@?@?

2,3,4 etc up to season 8 "08 - the one with " 20 times

but season 9 displayed normal

 

and then there's this:

Alias - i have all episodes under the show folder ... name scheme "101 - Truth Be Told"

the webclient/iphoneapp/MBTheater show the Alias image but when i go in there its empty.

but get this

using the XBMB3C skin (metro lookalike skin) its listing one of the Alias episodes in the big box thing and ... if i click it it will play the episode .. but again, in XBMB3c also has an emtpy Alias show folder ... wtf

 

anyway................. what is the naming structure that will give me perfect results in TV show scraping, dont give me options please, give me the one you use that works for you everytime with no issue....

[Happy2Play 8252]

I believe the most universal naming scheme is Show.S01E01.xxxxxx.ext, this identifies season and episode with no guessing. But it sounds like you are having an issue maybe with preexisting metadata or no metadata at all.  You would need to provide logs to determine your issue.

 

Episode pattern:

%sn.S%0sE%0e.%en.%ext

Edited July 25, 2014 by Happy2Play

[aspdend 174]

Personally, I use filebot to name my files with a decent naming scheme (series - 1x01 - episode name etc) and the MBS scraper generally has no problems with the metadata for me 

[Vidman 589]

+1 for filebot...... But I use 'season xx/series - SxxExx - episode name.ext'

Edited July 25, 2014 by Vidman

[Deathsquirrel 741]

I use SXXEXX.mp4 or SXXEXX Episode Title.mp4.  That format works fine.  I'm sure sticking the show title on the front wouldn't hurt either but I've no need to do so.  My shows are all stuck into a folder structure of \Show Title\Season XX before they're ever scanned by MB3 and they are backed up immediately after so what show I'm looking at is always pretty clear to me.

[ebr 14904]

SxxExx anywhere in the name is going to be your winner.  Others will work of course but I find that the easiest.

 

Naming conventions for TV Series

[Koleckai Silvestri 1150]

I believe the most universal naming scheme is Show.S01E01.xxxxxx.ext, this identifies season and episode with no guessing. But it sounds like you are having an issue maybe with preexisting metadata or no metadata at all.  You would need to provide logs to determine your issue.

 

Episode pattern:

%sn.S%0sE%0e.%en.%ext

 

 

This is what I use without problems.

[Abobader 2942]

SxxExx anywhere in the name is going to be your winner.  Others will work of course but I find that the easiest.

 

Naming conventions for TV Series

 

I always used that since the days of MB2, never had a problem.

[Riggs 300]

Hi.

I need some advice/help with this topic.

There's a problem that I have, and I can't find the solution yet.

Some aired miniseries have their DVD or Blu-ray release too, so, in many miniseries the digital content is not the same that the aired content.

So, you can find, "Aired order", and "DVD or Blu-ray order" on TVDB. (most are miniseries)

IMDB normally use the digital order, and TMDB seems only use the aired order.

 

Seems that Emby always use the "aired info" if you use, SxxExx. (I have no problem with TV Shows, just with the miniseries) 

 

I own the digital content of the miniseries in my library on DVD or Blu-ray, so at time to do the scan, I always get  "aired info"

 

I have this problem with 3 miniseries.

 

BTW: I have a library for miniseries only using the TV Shows template. I tried using the Movies template but... do not work.

 

Thanks in advance.  

[Riggs 300]

I find something but is not working

 

In the metadada editor the options Dvd, Aired or Absolute are not working like you expect that need to be work.

 

With Dvd, it takes random episodes, it lost the order either.

With Absolute same as Dvd.

With Aired, all episodes but the wrong order and no name for the episodes that are not in TMDB. 

 

So, I edit that library, and uncheck TMDB, but, it not pull the information or take TMDB Dvd order...

 

Maybe a bug?

 

The library is using TVShows template.

 

Thanks

Edited April 27, 2020 by Martin Riggs

[Luke 37022]

I find something but is not working

 

In the metadada editor the options Dvd, Aired or Absolute are not working like you expect that need to be work.

 

With Dvd, it takes random episodes, it lost the order either.

With Absolute same as Dvd.

With Aired, all episodes but the wrong order and no name for the episodes that are not in TMDB. 

 

So, I edit that library, and uncheck TMDB, but, it not pull the information or take TMDB Dvd order...

 

Maybe a bug?

 

The library is using TVShows template.

 

Thanks

 

Dvd order is currently only supported from Tvdb.

[Riggs 300]

Dvd order is currently only supported from Tvdb.

 

Ok, so, what I need to do to get TVDB info only?

 

I check the info in TVDB an it is correct for Dvd.

[Happy2Play 8252]

Ok, so, what I need to do to get TVDB info only?

 

I check the info in TVDB an it is correct for Dvd.

Only select TVDB as a provider on the library.

 

You would have to go to TVDB and look at their DVD order for the series.

[Luke 37022]

You can still enable Tmdb, but just make sure that Tvdb as at the top.

[Riggs 300]

Only select TVDB as a provider on the library.

 

You would have to go to TVDB and look at their DVD order for the series.

 

Yeah, i tried that already

Here is TVDB DVD order for that miniseries: https://thetvdb.com/series/the-bible/seasons/dvd/1

 

Here is the result using TVDB only with Display order: DVD

 

 

This is what i get. 5 episodes only and wrong order, etc. (The image scratches are capture fault)

 

<-------->

 

Here is the result using TVDB only with Display order: AIRED

 

 

This is what i get. All episodes, wrong order, etc.

 

 

 

What i have is the complete blu-ray collection (10). Each on in mkv format. 

 

Directory capture:

 

[Riggs 300]

You can still enable Tmdb, but just make sure that Tvdb as at the top.

 

Yep, that was the first that i changed there

[Riggs 300]

I know the search order is not in the captures, because I did that in the library settings which is where it is done.

 

TVDB in on top

[Happy2Play 8252]

Emby does not rearrange your media.  Your media has to be in the order of the selected metadata.

 

But TVDB API would be returning the wrong information if DVD shows 5 episodes and Aired shows 10.  The web site clearly shows 5 Aired and 10 DVD.

 

I will test but can almost guarantee the zipped metadata is wrong from their api.

 

Directly from their v3 api only show 5 episodes with no DVD data.  

 

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"next": null,
"prev": null
},
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"id": 4475670,
"airedSeason": 1,
"airedSeasonID": 509804,
"airedEpisodeNumber": 1,
"episodeName": "Beginnings",
"firstAired": "2013-03-03",
"guestStars": [],
"directors": [
"Crispin Reece"
],
"writers": [],
"overview": "Noah endures God's wrath; Abraham reaches the Promised Land but still must prove his faith in God; Moses leads the Israelites out of Egypt, and his faith in God is rewarded when the Red Sea parts to allow the Israelites to escape Pharaoh's chariots; Moses delivers his final message from God–the Ten Commandments.",
"language": {
"episodeName": "en",
"overview": "en"
},
"productionCode": "",
"showUrl": "",
"lastUpdated": 1575534264,
"dvdDiscid": "",
"dvdSeason": null,
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"seriesId": 265720,
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"airedSeasonID": 509804,
"airedEpisodeNumber": 2,
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"firstAired": "2013-03-10",
"guestStars": [],
"directors": [
"Crispin Reece"
],
"writers": [],
"overview": "Joshua conquers Jericho; Delilah betrays Samson as the Israelites battle the Philistines; Samuel anoints David king, a move that could throw the nation into civil war; Saul is consumed with jealousy when David defeats Goliath; King David ushers in a golden age for Israel, but is soon seduced by power and lust for Bathsheba; God forgives David, and his son, Solomon, builds God's temple in Jerusalem.",
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"guestStars": [],
"directors": [
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"overview": "The Jews are enslaved in Babylon; Daniel is thrown into the lions' den, but when his faith endures and God spares him, the Jews are allowed to return to Jerusalem; the Angel Gabriel tells Mary she will bear a child; Joseph takes Mary to Bethlehem for the census, where Jesus is born; the Holy family escapes Herod's order to kill Bethlehem's male babies; Judea comes under the ruthless rule of Pilate; John baptizes Jesus, who is now ready to take on his mission–and his revolution.",
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"firstAired": "2013-03-24",
"guestStars": [],
"directors": [
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Their v1 en.zip is miss all this information also.  So the issue resided specifically with TVDB.

 

If we are lucky it might be fixed in their v4 release when ever that happens.

Edited April 27, 2020 by Happy2Play

[Luke 37022]

@ does this help at all?

[Riggs 300]

@ does this help at all?

 

Oh yes, of course, helps a lot. Thanks-.

 

At least we know now that is not my mistake, is TVDB issue. Thanks to @@Happy2Play for take the time to see this.

 

I'm curious about this services the latest months.

 

TMDB: a lot of images gone, no explanation + Api faults

Fanart: same as TMDB but most in logos and other arts. + Api faults

TVDB: Api faults

 

 

For the moment, I think the best thing to do is did the changes at hand and lock that miniseries.

 

Thank you!

[Riggs 300]

Yesterday I took the task of collecting this information, I leave it here in case it is helpful for any user or for you. Thank you

 

TVDB DVD ORDER:

1. S01E01 In the Beginning
2. S01E02 Exodus
3. S01E03 Homeland
4. S01E04 Kingdom
5. S01E05 Survival
6. S01E06 Hope
7. S01E07 Mission
8. S01E08 Betrayal
9. S01E09 Passion
10. S01E10 Courage https://thetvdb.com/series/the-bible/seasons/dvd/1

AIRED ORDER:

1. S01E01 Beginnings
2. S01E02 Homeland
3. S01E03 Hope
4. S01E04 Mission
5. S01E05 Passion https://thetvdb.com/series/the-bible/seasons/official/1

IMDB ORDER

1. S01E01 In the Beginning
2. S01E02 Exodus
3. S01E03 Homeland
4. S01E04 Kingdom
5. S01E05 Survival
6. S01E06 Hope
7. S01E07 Mission
8. S01E08 Betrayal
9. S01E09 Passion
10. S01E10 Courage

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2245988/episodes?season=1&ref_=tt_eps_sn_1

[Luke 37022]

@

 

have the responses here helped?

[Riggs 300]

@

 

have the responses here helped?

 

@Luke  The answers can confirm what I knew.

 

TVDB offers the two options, TMDB aired only. IMDB offers the DVD order

 

The Emby scraper pulls the aired with the 10 episodes. BUT! ... DVD order pull the wrong information from TVDB and just 5 chapters and with the wrong order and metadata.

 

I did the job at hand Using TVDB and IMDB this time, and lock the metadata.

 

Not sure if the Emby scrapper have some problem that need to be addressed, it can't handle DVD, Aired or Absolute in the right way.

 

 

 

 

Thanks.

Edited May 4, 2020 by Martin Riggs

[Luke 37022]

What order are your files named in?

[Riggs 300]

What order are your files named in?

 

 

Now they are fix in the metadata at hand, one by one, using the TVDB and IMDB info, using the DVD order from the websites.

 

BUT I had to leave them in "Aired" because if I passed them to "DVD" or "Absolute" they would take a totally crazy order, something like chapter 1, 2, 3 and then 8 and 10 and showing 5 chapters only, although nevertheless did not match the number in the file.

 

The files are as follows inside the Season 1 folder. No tags or anything else weird inside the mkv:

S01E01.mkv

S01E02.mkv

S01E03.mkv

S01E04.mkv

S01E05.mkv

S01E06.mkv

S01E07.mkv

S01E08.mkv

S01E09.mkv

S01E10.mkv

 

I can't do more tests 'cause I had to locked the miniseries to avoid changes.

Edited May 5, 2020 by Martin Riggs