Chillout 85 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Well, not really... updates are great! Only the giant pop up is not. I'd rather see RSS feed, tiny icon, or an option for a manual update so i have more control over when to update. I realize its a simple decision: Yes or No But for laymen (wife, kids, babysitter, guests) that regularly use MBC for their digital entertainment these basic notifications only serve to confuse and annoy. Typical responses include: 'why do you have make this so complicated', 'all i wanted was to watch 16 and pregnant', and 'i should have married a welder'. I bet the last one isn't true but I'd like a change in how notifications are presented or for someone to give me a good response for the next time I get guff. Whichever comes first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koleckai Silvestri 1150 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 In the server you can configure who sees notifications. The only ones my family sees are new content added notifications. Everything else only shows to admins, which is me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36884 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Well MBC actually pops up a dialog box. I think it should take the MBT approach that just has an icon in the corner, but I think Ebr mentioned it would have to involve theme developers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesegeezer 3086 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Well MBC actually pops up a dialog box. I think it should take the MBT approach that just has an icon in the corner, but I think Ebr mentioned it would have to involve theme developers. I'm up for adding an update Icon & Button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14862 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 That pop-up only appears for users that are admins. The simple solution is to have your wife and kids user accounts not marked as admin and they'll never see it again. I want it to be annoying for admins though because we already have way too high of a percentage of MBC users running very old versions and not updating. This makes support that much harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nydude25 11 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 The simple solution is to disable automatic updates and just manually update when you are able to do so. No annoying pop-ups and no complaints from the family about unexpected changes. If you encounter a bug you need fixed or a new feature you must have, then just manually update to the newer version. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillout 85 Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 The simple solution is to disable automatic updates and just manually update when you are able to do so. Brilliant solution! Thanks for making my life a little bit easier... one less complaint at a time.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14862 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Brilliant solution! Thanks for making my life a little bit easier... one less complaint at a time.. No. My solution is the proper one. Just make your other users NOT admins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianW 1052 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 There will be less updates if you set MBC to beta instead of dev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillout 85 Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) No. My solution is the proper one. Just make your other users NOT admins. Having different users is not really an option for me in a household of techtards.. We really have one main TV so the default user would have to be a non admin because I cant ask the family to actually decide which account to use or there will be a revolt and back comes the Comcast DVR box and bluray player.. I would have to switch to admin to take care of things and update anyways so I see no benefit in this type of setup. Until a non invasive update notification is implemented I think a manual update is the best solution for my situation. Additional Comments: I found that if you remote desktop into the HTPC that you can manually check for updates. Worried about kicking off the user logged in watching their show? Try the win7 RDP hack that allows concurrent sessions: http://missingremote.com/guide/how-enable-concurrent-sessions-windows-7-service-pack-1-rtm Edited July 29, 2014 by Chillout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koleckai Silvestri 1150 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I have my televisions set to a generic non-admin user and then a separate user is used to manage the server. Each person also has their own user but they all use the generic one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidman 589 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) Having different users is not really an option for me in a household of techtards.. We really have one main TV so the default user would have to be a non admin because I cant ask the family to actually decide which account to use or there will be a revolt and back comes the Comcast DVR box and bluray player.. I would have to switch to admin to take care of things and update anyways so I see no benefit in this type of setup. Until a non invasive update notification is implemented I think a manual update is the best solution for my situation. Additional Comments: I found that if you remote desktop into the HTPC that you can manually check for updates. Worried about kicking off the user logged in watching their show? Try the win7 RDP hack that allows concurrent sessions: http://missingremote.com/guide/how-enable-concurrent-sessions-windows-7-service-pack-1-rtm The benefit would be that your family won't get the annoying update notifications that you are having an issue with if you have a non-admin user as default Edited July 30, 2014 by Vidman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14862 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Having different users is not really an option for me in a household of techtards.. We really have one main TV so the default user would have to be a non admin because I cant ask the family to actually decide which account to use or there will be a revolt and back comes the Comcast DVR box and bluray player.. I would have to switch to admin to take care of things and update anyways so I see no benefit in this type of setup. Until a non invasive update notification is implemented I think a manual update is the best solution for my situation. Additional Comments: I found that if you remote desktop into the HTPC that you can manually check for updates. Worried about kicking off the user logged in watching their show? Try the win7 RDP hack that allows concurrent sessions: http://missingremote.com/guide/how-enable-concurrent-sessions-windows-7-service-pack-1-rtm If everyone uses the same account then it won't make much difference how you handle this but you should still have your generic account used by the family be a non-admin one. Otherwise, they have full access to the entire configuration in both MBC and the server and, sooner or later, one of them is going to goof something up that you will have to figure out and fix . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef 3744 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Having different users is not really an option for me in a household of techtards.. Haha.. I haven't heard that slang before and it made me laugh this morning in my way to work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bLaZeR666_uk 1 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I dont know why you cant have user accounts as we do here and my 5 year old daughter can figure it out, just have a real picture of the user ie your own pic for your own account. set a password for the the Admin and other adult accounts then the child account has no password but set the viewing restrictions. Its pretty simple and not at all confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nydude25 11 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I dont know why you cant have user accounts as we do here and my 5 year old daughter can figure it out, just have a real picture of the user ie your own pic for your own account. set a password for the the Admin and other adult accounts then the child account has no password but set the viewing restrictions. Its pretty simple and not at all confusing. I think the issue is that not everyone wants to have user accounts on their home media system. It just adds another level of possible problems to arrive. No one wants to get a call at work from an angry wife who can't watch her favorite program because she doesn't have the password for the TV. The simpler you keep everything, especially involving the UI, the less hassles you'll wind up having. Shutting off the automatic updates is simply an easy way to keep the UI exactly the way you want it set up, with no chance for an overnight update to change things on you. If some kind of bug is affecting your system or you find out you need a another feature, then manually update when you have a time to do so and can see what changes the update may cause you. Otherwise, when you get the system working the way you want it, lock it down and leave it alone. If it aint broke, don't fix it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koleckai Silvestri 1150 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 This is why you separate the Admin. The wife won't be using that account and won't need the password. My family never has to mess with accounts on the main television. They launch the app and it automatically logs into a global user. No password needed because I set that up months ago. Since it is a separate account from the Admin Account, it doesn't get any notifications either. In the long run, user accounts can really simplify problems the family might have. Each to their own though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breezytm 124 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I have my admin account, my girl has her non admin account and my son has a non admin account. My friend knows not to use my account and since my son doesn't know what to do yet she selects his stuff for him. All accounts are not password protected. It's just a matter of respect. Don't use my stuff. It's that simple. You have your own, why are you in mine lol. I honestly never got any complains from her. EVER. The only time I used to get complains were when I used to use Plex/XBMC integration with WMC. I must admit it was quite confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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